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TOPIC: Continuation of SZ

Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 19:32 #21

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I've paid for the extra months hosting so we should have it sorted shortly.

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man hours, I got.

I am almost always free in the mornings untull about 1pm and I can take the very late shift from after 9: 30pm until very late. if somebosy picks up the afternoon and evening, we have it covered.

That'll be CET though not GMT shortly right? :)
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 19:32 #22

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No, it's a games console SC. You just switch it on and hope for the best :D

:killinme: I'm sorry...but that's just funny.



Back on topic though, I wish the current mods would step in here and say one way or the other if they are passing on the duties or continuing to perform their duties so we knew how many we had to vote into power or how many volunteers we needed :roll:

Since Andy has taken the steps to help keep this running (that's what I get from his last post), that seems to be handled.

Next, who has tech knowledge and can handle this, if needed?

And I'll open up a separate thread in a bit to nominate and have volunteers for the mod team... but before doing that, we should think about how many we want (4, 6, 8) and are they gonna be working shifts or just whenever they happen to be on and hope we have at least one on at all times (that will end up being up to them). If we set a specific # of mods for the time being (unless this place explodes with members or there is a need to replace one), how are we going to narrow it down to who? Whoever gets nominated the most or volunteers, set up a poll with them all and narrow it down after a week to that set number based on who gets the most votes, etc...?

And no, I am not gonna drag this thread out for weeks... others can if they want, but I think a situation needs to be handled in a timely fashion and decisions should be made without beating around the bush and chasing each other around for a month. So make up your minds :P :chuckle:
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 19:36 #23

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I can dedicate man hours to that. I wouldn't want to put forward as a mod, however, becasue I doubt if I would be seen as "neutral".

:roll: Depends, can you keep from hitting the red "nuke them" button before talking to other people first? Or do you have an itchy trigger finger? :chuckle:
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 19:42 #24

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mikey mikey wrote:
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I've paid for the extra months hosting so we should have it sorted shortly.

Once again, thank you. :star:

man hours, I got.
I am almost always free in the mornings untull about 1pm and I can take the very late shift from after 9: 30pm until very late. if somebosy picks up the afternoon and evening, we have it covered.

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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 19:47 #25

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StarsChildren wrote:
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No, it's a games console SC. You just switch it on and hope for the best :D

:killinme: I'm sorry...but that's just funny.



Back on topic though, I wish the current mods would step in here and say one way or the other if they are passing on the duties or continuing to perform their duties so we knew how many we had to vote into power or how many volunteers we needed :roll:

Since Andy has taken the steps to help keep this running (that's what I get from his last post), that seems to be handled.

Next, who has tech knowledge and can handle this, if needed?

And I'll open up a separate thread in a bit to nominate and have volunteers for the mod team... but before doing that, we should think about how many we want (4, 6, 8) and are they gonna be working shifts or just whenever they happen to be on and hope we have at least one on at all times (that will end up being up to them). If we set a specific # of mods for the time being (unless this place explodes with members or there is a need to replace one), how are we going to narrow it down to who? Whoever gets nominated the most or volunteers, set up a poll with them all and narrow it down after a week to that set number based on who gets the most votes, etc...?

And no, I am not gonna drag this thread out for weeks... others can if they want, but I think a situation needs to be handled in a timely fashion and decisions should be made without beating around the bush and chasing each other around for a month. So make up your minds :P :chuckle:

Take a deep breath...and relax :D

I'll do the initial techy stuff, including possibly upgrading the hosting and db backup etc.
In fact, I own a few other domains so this is nothing new to me, other than the type of forum (I'm used to vbulletin) but no matter.

I see the first community decision being who will be mods and will we continue the same setup of community moderation?

I expect it to be something of the ilk...if someone like HJ turns up and starts spouting racist crap then one of the mods immediately bans without even putting it to the community initially and then notifies everyone and we then have a discussion about it but I doubt in such a scenario there would be any gripes about it.

If its someone like SS who acts a bit dodgy and weird but nothing drastic then it gets put to the vote.

I'd trust sketti to be a mod without a second thought tbh.

In other words I wouldn't want to see much of a change in the rules if anything at all. I must stress I wouldn't want to see kneejerk reactions or any panicking going on about it, take your time.
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 19:56 #26

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Andy...dude...I don't breath... I hold my breath until I pass out, so far I am up to a couple hours, so you got a couple hours of non-stop babble to look forward to :D
Neither do I relax, unless I am otherwise asleep or passed out... I just made the mod thread in relation to that and told people to come read what you had to say. The thread at least gives a head start to all this rig-a-ma-row even if it doesn't get settled even a month from now... haven't posted/submitted it yet because of what you just said lol

But a great big thanks to you for the financial start and the tech start...

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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 19:58 #27

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That'll be CET though not GMT shortly right? :)

yes.
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 19:59 #28

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Andy...dude...I don't breath... I hold my breath until I pass out, so far I am up to a couple hours, so you got a couple hours of non-stop babble to look forward to :D
Neither do I relax, unless I am otherwise asleep or passed out... I just made the mod thread in relation to that and told people to come read what you had to say. The thread at least gives a head start to all this rig-a-ma-row even if it doesn't get settled even a month from now... haven't posted/submitted it yet because of what you just said lol

But a great big thanks to you for the financial start and the tech start...

*passes out*

lol :)

No probs, you're all very welcome, its the least I can do :)
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 19:59 #29

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mikey mikey wrote:
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That'll be CET though not GMT shortly right? :)

yes.

Bah, you get to go to all the good places :)
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 20:10 #30

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And I'll have all the joys of ordinary SZ membership with all that entails...wahey.. :D

Well done andy for stepping in, and the best of luck. It goes without saying that myself nov and frog will do everything we possibly can in order to make this transition go as smoothly as possible for you mate. :)
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 20:15 #31

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And I'll have all the joys of ordinary SZ membership with all that entails...wahey.. :D

Well done andy for stepping in, and the best of luck. It goes without saying that myself nov and frog will do everything we possibly can in order to make this transition go as smoothly as possible for you mate. :)

Kewlio! :)
At least nov and frog can speak techy with me, so minimal documentation needed lol.

Hopefully things will remain good for both sites. /prays to God...hang on I'm not religious dammit :p
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 20:50 #32

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Once I know I'll have a chat with everyone don't panic :)

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can you lot keep your quotes trimmed please, it really helps us mobile users if you can. ta
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 20:55 #33

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can you lot keep your quotes trimmed please, it really helps us mobile users if you can. ta
No dubs... we cannot service you :O by trimming out quoting :P
Maybe we can... :coffee:
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 20:58 #34

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can you lot keep your quotes trimmed please, it really helps us mobile users if you can. ta

Can you mod using a mobile? :D
Imagine the carnage lol.
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Can you mod using a mobile? :D
Imagine the carnage lol.

:chuckle: He'd be like a zoo keeper stuck in the middle of an baboon cage... surrounded and cornered :O
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 21:36 #36

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get stuffed. both of you.
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 21:56 #37

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andyh wrote:
I expect it to be something of the ilk...if someone like HJ turns up and starts spouting racist crap then one of the mods immediately bans without even putting it to the community initially and then notifies everyone and we then have a discussion about it but I doubt in such a scenario there would be any gripes about it.
People might not like this suggestion, but that's fine, it is only a suggestion.

Here are the rules:

sanctumzone.co.uk/info/terms-and-policy-...ity-guide-lines.html

I would suggest an eleventh rule, which would be something along the lines of..."if it can be definitively demonstrated that an individual has persistently broken these rules in another forum then they will not be considered welcome, and not permitted to open an account here, or if they have already opened an account, they will have posting privileges removed".

I realise we were operating on the basis of a clean slate, and I'm happy to go along with that if it's the way it's going to be, but I don't see any abiding reason to tolerate people who we know are not consistent and in tune with the ethos of the site. If you want to live in the Amish community, you can't take a PS3 in there, and then say "oh, I'm just exercising my freedom of speech".

If we know someone has been abusive and / or bigoted or prejudiced in the past, then they shouldn't have the privilege of posting here, in my opinion.

Of course, this is easily overcome by just not using the same name as on previous forums that are known to us, but some are too stupid to even do this.
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 22:04 #38

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Well, I'm all for that providing most people want it.
It'd take the usual dragged out lengthy discussion and vote.
In the meantime I would say just not to be hasty and leave things as they are.
The main thing I want to promise is not to make any changes and just keep the site paid for and running while we take our time over it and stick by what we all agreed to initially for the time being.

Personally my own POV is that its best to keep things as they are primarily because we haven't really seen much of the lunatic fringe here anyway and even if we did, a mod could deal with it quickly enough regardless.
They get an initial quick temp ban while the community decides whether to make it perm etc.

Thats my own POV though not necessarily the community.

The tricky stuff comes when people are not that obviously bad if you get my drift. Sometimes just an apology and carrying on would do and indeed 'should' do.
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 22:16 #39

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Dubs brought up bannings in the mod thread... which I think is relevant to WUB's post, about an 11th rule and knowing someone causes trouble and stirs the pot.

I think if we combine the two, and not out and out reject members we know have been known to stir shit up and cause problems, but give them a limited access sort of thing (like a trial run for a month, and do this for all new members regardless of if they are known trouble makers) it may limit the stirring of the pot. Also on bannings, if the community as it stands now can come to an agreement that it does not have to be voted on (community approval is not needed to ban someone)...but the mods/zonekeppers can go ahead and ban if they reach an agreement on it based on what someone has done since they took office, after having a warning because of such and such behavior it should be accepted and final. Stages of punishment/warnings handed out, get a warning = on warning, continue to break rules, booted out if the team in charge decides to do that without approval needed from the community.
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Re: Continuation of SZ 29 Sep 2012 22:21 #40

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I actually doubt such people would ever come here in the first place...let alone actually use the same forum name :D
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