It's the same old story.
Question everything, except us!

featheredfish wrote:

my favourite band!

dawnbreak wrote:
That probably explains why you hate Zeppelin

true Zepplin and Pink floyd .... and bob dylan ...........all shite

dawnbreak wrote: Where's the 'ignore' function on this site?

Ab Origine wrote:

dawnbreak wrote:

featheredfish wrote:

psketti wrote:
Im just waiting to see them post about how they have 70k members now.
cantata wrote:
Ive seen more people reading individual threads about how to do stuff to an LSx engine on ls1tech.com where im a member (over 200,000 members), that what are logged onto all of icke forum in these past few days at certain times.

Global awakening my a$$

That joint, ironically, is a matrix

I now dedicate this to that place...at least the bugatti boys keep it real..dont be pretending to be something they aint...

One of the main things which caused frustration for me on DIF, beside some of the other issues, is the fact that so many posters seem to have such contempt for David Icke but without really explaining why. Things like "he's a cult leader" or "in it for the money" and its generally (or so it very much seems) from people who havent read or understood any of his books. Ironically these are the same people who feel they should have input about how his forum is run. Personally I dont "follow" anyone, but take info from here and there and see what feels right and as such am repulsed by anyone trying to attract a 'following' - but I just dont see what there is to dislike about Icke. Fair enough, people don't have to agree with him but people seem to spit venom when they hear his name - and that is something which has confused me as much of the negativity and racism over on DIF. I was going to contact Icke to see what he thinks about this place, but why bother? He will look at the thread and think "well, they all think im a cunt anyway so what do they expect". People have their reasons for why they think, and i dont know enough about this mod thing anyway - but jeez, if Icke is in this for the money then ill eat my hat (has anyone seen the video where you see the car he drives and house he lives in?) I mean, he talks on stage and writes in books about how he perceives the nature of reality, nothing more, so I just dont get what there is to dislike so much. Sorry if its off topic, but it seems relevant to me when trying to weigh everythng up.

psketti wrote:
Sorry sketts...I'm not proud of it but I thought my motivation for doing it in the first place was relevant to the thread.

Plus, like you needed further ammo to use in your campaign of hate against me...

domathy wrote:
Fair points dom. None of us will really know unless we know him personally, at which point we could probably make an appropriate judgement, if we were so inclined.

I never really undestood folks that sign up somewhere just to diss the place either, but that's just people, I guess.

We've had a few here already.

I think, for my part, I'm more sceptical of the actual man for his lack of response about the goings-on on his own forum, regardless of how much actual involvement he has in the place. I mean, it has his name plastered all over it, so he should really step up if he is even aware that there is an issue.

I'm sure many here share that frustration too. As someone who has spent money on his books and actually followed him for some time, I feel I have the right to say some of the things I've said, as do others.

As I've said before though, if he's happy to let things slide as they are, that's his decision. Really, the lack of action there tells me all I need to know as I don't buy the whole 'he isn't aware' thing for a second. The reason this is a recurring theme here though, should be fairly obvious, plus the fact that you aren't allowed to talk about this stuff on the actual forum.

domathy wrote:
Then maybe, the best thing to do would be to look at all the facts presented here, plus the numerous links to discussions elsewhere... and make up your mind from there?


It's absolutely NOT just that people think he's a cunt... what's happened here and before us on more than one occasion, is that people have to come to realise that what he's spent his life doing and preaching, has NOT been duplicated through his forum. Not only has it not but the very things he's said he's against, over and over again, are ALL being played out on that very same forum.

The facts are ALL out there domathy, you could do worst than to check it out for yourself, seriously.

And yes, there is the very tiniest possibility that he's unaware of these things but as someone pointed out somewhere, as a business man (and he is most certainly one of those) then isn't in your best interests to keep an eye on all your ventures?

This isn't about bashing Icke and I'm sorry if you've gotten that impression.

It's about exposing a scam that continues to pull people in and use them to it's advantage.

irrepressible wrote:
So when you say you used to like him, do you mean its because of how the forum is run, that you now don't like him? Again, I can't see how people can be sure that there is a conspiracy here and that Icke is personally involved. And it just seems immature that people reckon he's made himself out to be a hero, when all ive heard him say is for people to think for themselves, same with 'celebrity'. And I know I sound like a total loser to you lot like Im a blind follower or something, but its nothing of the sort - im just genuinely curious about how poeople have formulated such severe and concrete views on a man!

domathy wrote:
Then go and educate yourself why.

domathy wrote:
You don't sound like a loser at all, dom. Adult discussion...that's what this place is for.

We don't mind you doing that here.

psketti wrote:
Okay, I will do, I don't know nearly enough about all this. Thanks.

Ab Origine wrote:
Nice one Ab, thanks

domathy wrote:
See the thread about 'forumgate' with sean totally admitting he did it and then see the 'official' explanation given by Icke himself denying all of it. (Or perhaps it was Icke books and/or sean himself and Icke never knew about it at all?)

Its all here on this forum, you must've missed the posts perhaps?

domathy wrote:
Pretty much domathy. The forum has his name attached to it, it has his integrity attached to it. The place has turned very dark for me. Full of hate, race hate, homophobia, personal attacks that often go unpunished.
The DIF has become the total antithesis of what Icke preaches. It is being run very badly by sean. There's a guy looking after number 1.