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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 15:30 #61

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I'll say this to Sean though, as he's no doubt reading..

Are you getting it yet Sean? Is it sinking in? I'd like to think & hope that what you are reading here might make a difference to the way you run the DIF (& maybe even save it) but unfortunately I don't hold out much hope of that.

You are a disgrace, you have betrayed all the good people who did/do post on the David Icke forum in good faith and made it into what it is (was anyway). THEY built that place, NOT you

You should be ashamed of yourself.



Well said DG,

The one thing that I think is true is 'they' ........i.e Sean and I_Am don't like is forum members actually getting to know each other off the forum.....or heaven forbid actually meet up in real life


I know some of my inactive status came directly after I arranged to meet a couple of forum members.

And if I remember correctly did that not happen to you & Jane?
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 15:31 #62

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its fun to bitch about dif, but that place matters very little to me. there was some chumps to troll and some people said some interesting stuff and i met some nice ppl. but i realize i dont give much of a shit what happens to that place. its online drama centered around a minor celebrity and run by a group of candy asses.
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 15:32 #63

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its fun to bitch about dif, but that place matters very little to me. there was some chumps to troll and some people said some interesting stuff and i met some nice ppl. but i realize i dont give much of a shit what happens to that place. its online drama centered around a minor celebrity and run by a group of candy asses.

I'm of the same opinion, but like you say, its fun to bitch :D
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 16:13 #64

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I never knew you were MF Abs...you got me lol

Sorry to hear about your dad btw, yours too Andy. I lost my dad 6 years ago, & yes we saw it coming & all that...doesn't help much though does it.

And to everyone who has posted in this thread...bravo! what can I say...nothing that you guys haven't already.

I'll say this to Sean though, as he's no doubt reading..

Are you getting it yet Sean? Is it sinking in? I'd like to think & hope that what you are reading here might make a difference to the way you run the DIF (& maybe even save it) but unfortunately I don't hold out much hope of that.

You are a disgrace, you have betrayed all the good people who did/do post on the David Icke forum in good faith and made it into what it is (was anyway). THEY built that place, NOT you

You should be ashamed of yourself.

What makes me so sad about it all is that we as individuals and en masse have time and time again attempted to be open with the admin over there about the issues we had and about everything that has been said here.

What we have managed to do (particularly dg and the team - though I think that everyone has contributed) is turn a negative into a positive by removing ourselves from a place where censorship and lack of freedom to challenge and created something which accurately reflects the ideals and values that we wished to see upheld on the dif - ideals which are actually along the lines of the original forum rules of the dif.

No doubt we will face difficulties as the place gets bigger and we settle down into moving on from dif and building here up - but I hope that we can stick to the ideals whilst not making the same errors of judgement pointed out in this thread.

It has been brilliant to vent having had so much build up over the years - wondering if I am the only one who sees things and who worried about the direction and tone. I see now that I wasnt as alone as I believed and that is tremendously validating :) I know I predominantly am posting about dif currently but do feel as if the weight is being lifted and its almost out of my system :)
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 16:19 #65

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andyh wrote:
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he hated me posting there due to its negative affect.

He's right, it does have a hell of a negative effect.

I feel like a clouds been lifted off me, it's like having the drug monkey off your back if you know what I mean.
My simply not posting there anymore has had more of a powerful effect than I could ever have done by arguing with all the divide and conquer bigots.

Actually, if there is anything to that whole LOA stuff, people that spend their lives on that forum are storing themselves up for a whole heap of nasty stuff, too.

I can kind of see how that works now, being away from it. I mean, I know terrible stuff happens every day, but there really is no useful purpose in wallowing in it every second. Besides which, the msm do a good enough job of reminding us just how awful everything is every day.

I'm quite sure they don't need any more help.


I think youre totally right about the LOA stuff and that getting involved with debates on DIF actually meant feeding whatever the thread was supposedly opposing (same with reading the headlines page too I feel). Plus some/most debates were just not worth getting involved in as they were only ever going to go in one direction and you just harm yourself by getting involved (which is easier said than done, because you get involved then get annoyed with yourself for getting involved). Somone has a sig which says 'dont feed the trolls' and that makes sense; Dubs' strategy seemed like the best approach.

Im a 100% Icke fan, and whilst I don't doubt his intentions, think he needs to do something about what has happened to his forum. Perhaps he is turning a blind eye as he needs to generate income after all that business with the publishing company who screwed him over? I've seen this happen to another person (who I think was targeted), and then because money was tight the'quality contol' went downhill and reputation got battered. I think these court cases are a weapon which is used to drain people and force them to compromise on their values. Either way, has anyone actually emailed Icke directly??

The thing that has shocked me about all this is that the mods are so complicit. I thought there was an invasion of negative people on DIF and that they were responsible for everything bad, but hearing everyone's tales has been a real eye opener. I mean, to ban someone for life is shocking in itself (maybe a year or something, but the 'no forgiveness' policy is just crazy given the fact the forum is supposed to oppose police-state behaviour). I have no idea what modgate is but must have been bad as people keep mentioning it.

I think Icke knows all too well whats going on and he approves and encourages it.
The more that give up the goat the better imho. Serves him right.
You can't have forum rules saying one thing and mods openly doing and encouraging the opposite...'oh please dn't stop replying to the racist threads, whimper whimper...they'll take over the forum!'

WELL BAN THE BASTARDS THEN! Pft bloody morons,as if we don't know the game at this stage now.

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Sean & Co. WANT the arguments to continue, its how that forum thrives.

You might be right, but at the same time I don't want to make assumptions. Perhaps Icke had too much faith that the site was being run properly and he too had the wool pulled over eyes? He spends his time researching, so I not sure if he looks at the forum in any meaningful way. Perhaps just the odd glance, and says to himself "yep, lots of uncensored discussions going on here - all good" and carries on with his work. I mean, if he was naive enough to be screwed by his publishing company in the way that he did - maybe he is innocent and has just been far too trusting that people wont abuse the power given to them. If so there are big parralels between the rights to his books being stolen, and the case of Sean and Co trading off his name to make money and power for themselves.

Does anyone mind if I send Icke a link to this thread?? If spoken to his wife via email beofore and she seems quite willing to help with this sort of thing. It seems only fair for him to have a chance to speak for himself on this matter. You guys all had high post counts, had been on DIF for a long time and have formed strong bonds/friendships and due to the overall tone on this forum, I think Icke would be able to see you are not disruptive elements trying to destroy his forum, but rather people with genuine concerns and grievances.
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 16:25 #66

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I'd believe it for a little while but not for as long as its gone on now.
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 16:26 #67

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domathy wrote:
Does anyone mind if I send Icke a link to this thread?? If spoken to his wife via email beofore and she seems quite willing to help with this sort of thing. It seems only fair for him to have a chance to speak for himself on this matter. You guys all had high post counts, had been on DIF for a long time and have formed strong bonds/friendships and due to the overall tone on this forum, I think Icke would be able to see you are not disruptive elements trying to destroy his forum, but rather people with genuine concerns and grievances.

Fine by me.

Can't do any harm can it?
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 16:33 #68

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@domathy

Personally I would love to know what david honestly thinks about all this.

When 'modgate' happened one of the things that people did was ring and email icke books, icke himself and linda in order to complain about sean and to make known what the issues were.

The issues being the invasion of privacy - through sean reading pms, people having points given by mods for racism taken away by sean, and blanket bans for anyone daring to question or disagree including longstanding members of the mod team.
Statement regarding recent events on this forum

Hi everyone,

The David Icke Books office has been receiving emails from people regarding the recent events surrounding moderators leaving our team and the allegations being put forward of private messages being read.

David is currently in the final stages of finishing his new book and is working 12 hours a day every day. He isn't actively involved on this forum in any way because he has so many other things to do, nor does he know anything about the situation at hand and so he cannot comment on it. For that reason can we ask that emails are not sent to David asking questions about the situation because his workload is fit to burst.

We have heard some very malicious accusations being thrown our way by outside sources, who are also advising others to bombard the office with emails and telephone calls.

We are well aware of the situation and are dealing with it. I'd like to reassure everybody that we have never read regular users' private messages. The untruths and attacks coming our way, come from people who wish to destroy this forum and create an atmosphere of fear and panic.

We have had to deal with a very unfortunate private moderator issue, which is still being dealt with. This issue has absolutely no bearing on any of our regular users, and as a result outside websites have decided to manipulate the issue in order to attack us.

Please bear with us while we deal with the issue. The David Icke Books office is closed as it's a weekend, and we'd appreciate it if you would ignore those attacking this site and instructing people to bombard them. It serves no purpose, other than causing further disruption to their work when the issue is already being dealt with.

We are all facing enormous challenges as the world heads daily into greater tyranny. Please don't let us be diverted from what we need to do by self-indulgent people who do not have the maturity, or the commitment to freedom, to put the good of the whole before their personal prejudices.

As David said in a recent newsletter, he is well aware of plans to try to discredit him and his work in the light of his new book, which is going to reveal a whole new level of what is going on and how humanity is being controlled 24/7. He knows it is going to be a bumpy ride, but he's used to that.

Many thanks,

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This was the official response

By all means contact Icke - who knows his response may well be very 'enlightening' - I don't hold out much hope though

webanarchy.net/v3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6831&start=80 - full thread available here
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 16:35 #69

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thoreau wrote:
@domathy

Personally I would love to know what david honestly thinks about all this.

When 'modgate' happened one of the things that people did was ring and email icke books, icke himself and linda in order to complain about sean and to make known what the issues were.

The issues being the invasion of privacy - through sean reading pms, people having points given by mods for racism taken away by sean, and blanket bans for anyone daring to question or disagree including longstanding members of the mod team.
Statement regarding recent events on this forum

Hi everyone,

The David Icke Books office has been receiving emails from people regarding the recent events surrounding moderators leaving our team and the allegations being put forward of private messages being read.

David is currently in the final stages of finishing his new book and is working 12 hours a day every day. He isn't actively involved on this forum in any way because he has so many other things to do, nor does he know anything about the situation at hand and so he cannot comment on it. For that reason can we ask that emails are not sent to David asking questions about the situation because his workload is fit to burst.

We have heard some very malicious accusations being thrown our way by outside sources, who are also advising others to bombard the office with emails and telephone calls.

We are well aware of the situation and are dealing with it. I'd like to reassure everybody that we have never read regular users' private messages. The untruths and attacks coming our way, come from people who wish to destroy this forum and create an atmosphere of fear and panic.

We have had to deal with a very unfortunate private moderator issue, which is still being dealt with. This issue has absolutely no bearing on any of our regular users, and as a result outside websites have decided to manipulate the issue in order to attack us.

Please bear with us while we deal with the issue. The David Icke Books office is closed as it's a weekend, and we'd appreciate it if you would ignore those attacking this site and instructing people to bombard them. It serves no purpose, other than causing further disruption to their work when the issue is already being dealt with.

We are all facing enormous challenges as the world heads daily into greater tyranny. Please don't let us be diverted from what we need to do by self-indulgent people who do not have the maturity, or the commitment to freedom, to put the good of the whole before their personal prejudices.

As David said in a recent newsletter, he is well aware of plans to try to discredit him and his work in the light of his new book, which is going to reveal a whole new level of what is going on and how humanity is being controlled 24/7. He knows it is going to be a bumpy ride, but he's used to that.

Many thanks,

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This was the official response

By all means contact Icke - who knows his response may well be very 'enlightening' - I don't hold out much hope though

webanarchy.net/v3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6831&start=80 - full thread available here

Like I said, its pretty obvious what the game is and the evidence is there for all to plainly see now.
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 16:41 #70

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you may as well face it, icke's not the big hero he made himself out to be. its all showbusiness. we're alone.
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 16:44 #71

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you may as well face it, icke's not the big hero he made himself out to be. its all showbusiness. we're alone.
Ditto.
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you may as well face it, icke's not the big hero he made himself out to be. its all showbusiness. we're alone.

That's why I never follow anyone, and question everything.

Some people think the sun shines out of his arse though :chuckle: I kind of like Icke, well, I used to anyway :D
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 16:48 #73

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domathy wrote:
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he hated me posting there due to its negative affect.



Does anyone mind if I send Icke a link to this thread?? If spoken to his wife via email beofore and she seems quite willing to help with this sort of thing. It seems only fair for him to have a chance to speak for himself on this matter.

His wife?

She's suing him isn't she?
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 16:51 #74

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I can be a bit slow at times so help me here folks.

Forces out to discredit Icke had his webmaster install software to read pm's then bust him when he used it?

Really?

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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 16:56 #75

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I will be very, very surprised - astonished... astounded, even - if David Icke doesn't know what's going on already. I'd keel over in a dead faint if he wasn't approving of it. He is, after all, claiming to be a man so in the know he can tell the "waking sheep" what's happening at the top of any pyramid and on other planets/dimensions. :roll:

I'm with batou when he says the DIFs don't matter.

Icke matters even less, as far as I can make out. He is nowhere as "important" or "known" as he'd have the people on those forums believe - outside of being a crank.
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Re: The David Icke Forum 13 May 2012 17:00 #76

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I can be a bit slow at times so help me here folks.

Forces out to discredit Icke had his webmaster install software to read pm's then bust him when he used it?

Really?

:secret:


No I don't think it was like that .

It transpired about 2/3 years ago that the admin team were reading pm's, but the pm's they were reading were the moderators (of the time).

And it all kicked off and lots of folk left because they thought it was underhand.

The join up rules were then changed to 'Admin has the right to read your pm's' but they deny that if asked and say they can't read your pm's (which I found out the time I tried to retrieve information from one)

I doubt it was forces out to discredit Icke though that would be a whole new conspiracy theory
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I kind of like Icke...

Did I just say that? :barfonu:
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I was being mildly sarcastic regarding the response cited above.

If anyone discredited the Icke name it was the individual who decided the right course of action was to install software to read 'private' messages.

The talk afterwards about outsiders attempting to discredit David Icke is all smoke and mirrors deflection.
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:spliff: ... what a fabulous thread to log into and read.

Good to hear so many honest voices... not to mention the revelation of Ab being Madame Follette :pmsl:

I genuinely did not know this :D


As for the recent bannings, connected with the timings of some members posts... to that I say...

...A great BIG FUCK YOU... I_AM willing to make an educated guess as to who you are :gleek:
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