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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 16 Mar 2013 21:05 #1

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Cyprus: panic as savings levy is imposed

Cypriots rush to ATMs before savings are docked as part of a bailout deal agreed in Brussels

Cypriots reacted with shock that turned to panic on Saturday after a 10% one-off levy on savings was forced on them as part of an extraordinary 10bn euro (£8.7bn) bailout agreed in Brussels.

People rushed to banks and queued at cash machines that refused to release cash as resentment quickly set in. The savers, half of whom are thought to be non-resident Russians, will raise almost €6bn thanks to a deal reached by European partners and the International Monetary Fund (IMF). It is the first time a bailout has included such a measure and Cyprus is the fifth country after Greece, the Republic of Ireland, Portugal and Spain to turn to the eurozone for financial help during the region's debt crisis. The move in the eurozone's third smallest economy could have repercussions for financially overstretched bigger economies such as Spain and Italy.

People with less than 100,000 euros in their accounts will have to pay a one-time tax of 6.75%, Eurozone officials said, while those with greater sums will lose 9.9%. Without a rescue, president Nicos Anastasiades said Cyprus would default and threaten to unravel investor confidence in the eurozone. The Cypriot leader, who was elected last month on a promise to tackle the country's debt crisis, will make a statement to the nation on Sunday.

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www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/16/cyp...evy-imposed-eurozone
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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 16 Mar 2013 21:14 #2

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Clucking bell....seriously WTF!!!?
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yes seriously :coffee:
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This is going to CAUSE a bank run.
This is DELIBERATE.
The banks will suddenly be over leveraged come Monday and theres nothing they can fugging do. There's no way in hell they didn't foresee this.
They're going to need another immediate bailout on the order of tens of magnitude greater than the one they just got ffs!!!?!?
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There was an article I posted a few weeks ago where some financial experts were predicting this kind of situation. It's grim, but there's similar goings on forecast for us in the near future.
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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 16 Mar 2013 21:33 #6

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andyh wrote:
This is going to CAUSE a bank run.
This is DELIBERATE.
The banks will suddenly be over leveraged come Monday and theres nothing they can fugging do. There's no way in hell they didn't foresee this.
They're going to need another immediate bailout on the order of tens of magnitude greater than the one they just got ffs!!!?!?
It certainly ought to make it 100% clear how bad the situation is, not merely in Cyprus, and the extent to which the IMF is literally occupying Europe. Obviously it could have a massive knock on effect, and, of course, other countries will have to face the possibility of similarly onerous conditions being imposed on them.

I looked into it just to check that I'd actually understood it correctly, but it's exactly what it says on the tin.

More coverage of this here:

maxkeiser.com/2013/03/16/bank-holiday-in...cent-of-all-savings/
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ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite2_1_16/03/2013_488169
Cyprus state broadcaster CyBC reported on Saturday that German Finance Minister actually entered the Eurogroup meeting on Friday proposing a 40 percent haircut on Cypriot bank accounts. Sarris stated on Saturday that this had also been the proposal of the International Monetary Fund.
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wake_up_bomb wrote:
ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite2_1_16/03/2013_488169
Cyprus state broadcaster CyBC reported on Saturday that German Finance Minister actually entered the Eurogroup meeting on Friday proposing a 40 percent haircut on Cypriot bank accounts. Sarris stated on Saturday that this had also been the proposal of the International Monetary Fund.

'German Finance Minister actually entered the Eurogroup meeting on Friday proposing a 40 percent haircut on Cypriot bank accounts'

Bloody hell!!!
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andyh wrote:
'German Finance Minister actually entered the Eurogroup meeting on Friday proposing a 40 percent haircut on Cypriot bank accounts'

Bloody hell!!!
Look at the way the BBC reports these things:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21812853
A well-placed official rings to tell me why investors should not be panicking that the punishment of Cypriot depositors is a precedent, or that lenders to Spanish and Italian banks will be spanked as well before too long.

He says the structure of the Cypriot bailout has been determined by German politics. (Aren't all eurozone bailouts fixed in that way?)

Here is the logic behind imposing a hefty levy on Cyprus deposits, according to this official:

1) Regulators and politicians are convinced that a vast amount of cash in Cypriot banks belongs to Russian money launderers.

2) Few German politicians of any persuasion would have voted for a Cyprus rescue that simultaneously rescued these launderers.

3) So the only way to get the bailout through the Bundestag is for the launderers to be taxed to the tune of almost 10% of their allegedly ill-gotten cash. And if innocent savers are hurt too, that is the way this particular "Keks" will crumble.

On that analysis, private sector lenders either to Spanish banks or to the Italian government - as two topical and relevant examples - need not fear that it is their turn next to take a write-off.

That may be seen as comforting by investors, up to a point.
I've never read such a load of fucking shit in all my life.
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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 16 Mar 2013 21:51 #10

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Comforting? COMFORTING???!!!

Fucking idiots!!!
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Peston


Good work, Peston, here's your six-figure salary.
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wake_up_bomb wrote:
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Good work, Peston, here's your six-figure salary.

Which he'll take along with his bonus after the reduction to 45% tax from 50 no doubt.
Fucking tossers :/

This cyprus situation can have an almighty fecking knock on effect and they KNOW it fucking tossers.
Its a bank hol here in Ireland too chrissake, I'm gonna have to get my money out on tuesday now.

The UK has a bloody 2bn bank in cyprus of all the shit ffs.
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andyh wrote:
Which he'll take along with his bonus after the reduction to 45% tax from 50 no doubt.
Fucking tossers :/

This cyprus situation can have an almighty fecking knock on effect and they KNOW it fucking tossers.
Its a bank hol here in Ireland too chrissake, I'm gonna have to get my money out on tuesday now.

The UK has a bloody 2bn bank in cyprus of all the shit ffs.
We all know it's coming sooner or later, if not this time then a little later down the track. I guess you can't do much other than the little that's possible to protect yourself.
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wake_up_bomb wrote:
andyh wrote:
Which he'll take along with his bonus after the reduction to 45% tax from 50 no doubt.
Fucking tossers :/

This cyprus situation can have an almighty fecking knock on effect and they KNOW it fucking tossers.
Its a bank hol here in Ireland too chrissake, I'm gonna have to get my money out on tuesday now.

The UK has a bloody 2bn bank in cyprus of all the shit ffs.
We all know it's coming sooner or later, if not this time then a little later down the track. I guess you can't do much other than the little that's possible to protect yourself.


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Guess where we moved our cash too?

:facepalm:

Perhaps they'll listen to my plan A now!
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I did tell you in another thread that Cypriots were being robbed. :coffee:
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pheony wrote:
I did tell you in another thread that Cypriots were being robbed. :coffee:

That you did, the details wub has given make it more noticeable :)

And frankly I'm shitting over a five bar gate at the moment.
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pheony wrote:
I did tell you in another thread that Cypriots were being robbed. :coffee:
I didn't see that, I don't get much chance to read the forum lately. I've only just read about this.
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pheony wrote:
I did tell you in another thread that Cypriots were being robbed. :coffee:
I didn't see that, I don't get much chance to read the forum lately. I've only just read about this.

I'm worse than dawnbreak for posting links and pics...so I just post about a subject and hope that people will investigate for themselves. :emb: :D
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pheony wrote:
I'm worse than dawnbreak for posting links and pics...so I just post about a subject and hope that people will investigate for themselves. :emb: :D
Well, you were right that they're being robbed, alright. Even though they call it a 'haircut'. Fucking expensive haircut, that's for sure.
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