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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 23 Mar 2013 23:00 #481

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Mike wrote:
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pheony wrote:
Sky News....

A deal has been reached, Cyprus agrees to tax 20% on deposits over 100,000 and 4% for all other deposits

shit thats a big slab of money for those with over 100k.

the sly fuckers know what they are doing, it makes it much easier to swallow for the majority, while those with a bit more put away get robbed more, its theft pure and simple no matter which way you look at it.
Why shouldn't those with more pay more in your opinion?

Oh don't fucking start!
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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 23 Mar 2013 23:10 #482

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angelchemuel wrote:
Mike wrote:
novum wrote:
pheony wrote:
Sky News....

A deal has been reached, Cyprus agrees to tax 20% on deposits over 100,000 and 4% for all other deposits

shit thats a big slab of money for those with over 100k.

the sly fuckers know what they are doing, it makes it much easier to swallow for the majority, while those with a bit more put away get robbed more, its theft pure and simple no matter which way you look at it.
Why shouldn't those with more pay more in your opinion?

Oh don't fucking start!
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Oh my god mike. You gone and dun broke janes rainbows :gtfo:
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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 23 Mar 2013 23:13 #483

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Woah!

I got an 18 month old here whose favourite English song (after twinker twinker) is the Hoakey Coakey, closely followed by 'sing a wainwow'.

I demand a Youtube uplink explaining this shit to her.
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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 23 Mar 2013 23:27 #484

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psketti wrote:
angelchemuel wrote:
Mike wrote:
novum wrote:
pheony wrote:
Sky News....

A deal has been reached, Cyprus agrees to tax 20% on deposits over 100,000 and 4% for all other deposits

shit thats a big slab of money for those with over 100k.

the sly fuckers know what they are doing, it makes it much easier to swallow for the majority, while those with a bit more put away get robbed more, its theft pure and simple no matter which way you look at it.
Why shouldn't those with more pay more in your opinion?

Oh don't fucking start!
:mf:
I give up on my rainbows around here
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Oh my god mike. You gone and dun broke janes rainbows :gtfo:

Laughing my fucking arse off! :killinme: thank you Sketts! :luvu:
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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 24 Mar 2013 00:06 #485

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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 24 Mar 2013 00:24 #486

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To the Russian oligarchs.

Welcome to crapitalism :hahano:
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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 24 Mar 2013 00:38 #487

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humanspirit wrote:
To the Russian oligarchs.

Welcome to crapitalism :hahano:

Is there a difference?
Given all the 'first spot' this case is getting across the BBC and Sky News the phrase "The lady protests too much" comes to mind. They have even dug up Letvenienkos pulonium poisoning...I thought we were the conspiracy theorists...not MSM ffs! Hell's bells...I'm going to bed to give my brain a chance to defrag!

@Sketts...keep up the good work girl....this battle tonight can be declared a victory...but the battle ain't won yet...I'll be back tomorrow to do what I can
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Mike wrote:
Why shouldn't those with more pay more in your opinion?

Why should they?

If people have worked hard for years and saved money, or happen to have sold an asset like a home and banked the money, why should the rules change just like that and single them out? Catch them out even.

Will the wealthiest people on the planet get 20 percenf of their savings taken from them? Or the bankers behind the collapse of Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae and Goldman Sachs bankers who helped mask Greeces debt together with politicians? No they wont, of course not. They keep getting the ridiculous salaries, bonuses and perks.

It is an attack on the middle class and does not suprise me in the slightest though, nor does your comment come to think of it. :chuckle:

So you think the way forward is to leave the richest be, the elite who hold obscene amounts of wealth, and instead rip 20 percent off the middle guys?
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humanspirit wrote:
To the Russian oligarchs.

Welcome to crapitalism :hahano:

:thumbup:

The richest are keen to peg em all back some.
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novum wrote:
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To the Russian oligarchs.

Welcome to crapitalism :hahano:

:thumbup:

The richest are keen to peg em all back some.

The poor have been bled dry for generations and have nothing left to give other than their lives,time for other victims of the pyramid system to pay the piper.
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Last Edit: 24 Mar 2013 01:33 by humanspirit.
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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 24 Mar 2013 01:34 #491

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The poor have been bled dry for generations and have nothing left to give other than their lives,time for other victims to pay the piper.

Yep but it wont be those who can afford to pay it the most.

This will definately shake up the banking sector i feel, in many places. Those who have 6 figure savings elsewhere will be paying attention.
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The reality of interest accounts and banking in general is it needs victims,people to take money off.

It's exactly the same as stock trading or betting exchanges.

Lots of losers to pay the few winners.
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The reality of interest accounts and banking in general is it needs victims,people to take money off.

It's exactly the same as stock trading or betting exchanges.

Lots of losers to pay the few winners.

Seems like its heading that way in regards to savings accounts, yes. Though you have to admit that savings accounts getting hit like that is unprecedented in recent times, compared with betting and the markets.
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I haven't been following this today because I knew the politicians would fold sooner or later, they pretty much always do. But sources that I've seen are quoting 25% for over 100,000 euros.

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/23/cyp...n-reprisal-bank-levy
Cyprus bailout: Kremlin 'could punish Europe' in reprisal for bank levy

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A radical restructuring of the island's second largest lender Laiki (Popular Bank) will see all deposits over 100,000 euros put into a "bad bank" where they will be tied up for years and may never be fully recovered.

MPs passed that measure on Friday night.
uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/cyprus-bailout...dline-093958730.html
In the same article it says they are tryin to avoid the same for Bank of Cyprus

:O That's a 100% haircut!!!!

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angelchemuel wrote:
A radical restructuring of the island's second largest lender Laiki (Popular Bank) will see all deposits over 100,000 euros put into a "bad bank" where they will be tied up for years and may never be fully recovered.

MPs passed that measure on Friday night.
uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/cyprus-bailout...dline-093958730.html
In the same article it says they are tryin to avoid the same for Bank of Cyprus

:O That's a 100% haircut!!!!
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It's insanity, and it's GOT to be illegal, surely? How the hell can they get away with something like that?

If the bank staff go on strike as well, hen people have already had their bank account access blocked for a week - well it's unthinkable. :(
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This makes absolutely no sense.
Why would they suddenly need more than double the previous amount from Cyprus and why would the Cypriot parliament vote for it if half that amount was rejected!! ??
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With its banks indefinitely closed, and capital controls already in place making it virtually impossible any material cash will leave the local bank branches or certainly the island (especially in direction Moscow), gas stations about to shut down due to lack of cash, next it was the turn of the ATMs. Sure enough, as CNBC's Michelle Caruso-Cabrera reports on the ground from Nicosia, moments ago the nation's second largest, and second most insolvent bank, Laiki Bank, announced that withdrawals are now limited to €100. The picture below from MCC shows as an employee takes down old sign that said previous €260 limit. At this pace, in lieu of some grand bargain, we expect it is only hours before the final limit is imposed: withdrawals now limited to €0.

www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-24/cyprus...l-limit-%E2%82%AC100

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Pay 10% of Your Savings to Save the Eurozone 24 Mar 2013 15:59 #499

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novum wrote:
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Why shouldn't those with more pay more in your opinion?

Why should they?

If people have worked hard for years and saved money, or happen to have sold an asset like a home and banked the money, why should the rules change just like that and single them out? Catch them out even.
So they should contribute more because they've cashed in on the housing boom, and made a quick buck when the gravy train was running smoothly, therefore they have the means to contribute more to a bailout they will benefit from aswell.
Or maybe you think Cypriots should get a 100% bailout, the Cypriot Government obviously thinks the economy needs one?
Will the wealthiest people on the planet get 20 percenf of their savings taken from them? Or the bankers behind the collapse of Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae and Goldman Sachs bankers who helped mask Greeces debt together with politicians? No they wont, of course not. They keep getting the ridiculous salaries, bonuses and perks.
The EU is attacking bankers salaries, they are capping them at a certain limit, quite a progressive move I think you'll agree?
It is an attack on the middle class and does not suprise me in the slightest though, nor does your comment come to think of it. :chuckle:

So you think the way forward is to leave the richest be, the elite who hold obscene amounts of wealth, and instead rip 20 percent off the middle guys?
The last point has nothing to do with Cyprus, if we take the distinction earlier made by the Cypriot government in the rate of the levy : over 100k pays 10%, over 20k pays 6% less than 20k pays nothing, then this was specifically an attack on the upper level of depositors, what they settled on was more overtly putting the burden on the richest depositors in Cyprus:
Cyprus agrees to tax 20% on deposits over 100,000 and 4% for all other deposits.
So basically you're wrong if you think middle class is somebody with bank deposits over 100k imo.
Last Edit: 24 Mar 2013 16:03 by Mike.
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"In most legal systems, . . . the funds deposited are no longer the property of the customer. The funds become the property of the bank, and the customer in turn receives an asset called a deposit account (a checking or savings account). That deposit account is a LIABILITY of the bank on the bank’s books and on its balance sheet. Because the bank is authorized by law to make loans up to a multiple of its reserves, the bank’s reserves on hand to satisfy payment of deposit liabilities amounts to only a fraction of the total which the bank is obligated to pay in satisfaction of its demand deposits."

I keep seeing this being quoted. Is it true? If it is, then the 'haircuts' are actually legal then aren't they and we can't call it theft.
If it is how can a person find out if they have 'signed up' to this?
And would this explain the growth in straight forward 'debit' accounts where banks claim if you want to open one (as an existing customer) they don't have to do a credit check on you?
It's always in the small print hey!
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