www.heritagefl.com/story/2014/02/28/news...n-students/2300.html


Where the fuck is the ADL?

FYI

WTF?

And yet the BBC say they're not a nazis :p

Admittedly my knowledge of Jewish religion is limited but i thought their religion was based around some promised land given to them by the Jewish god (YHWH,Adonai,HaShem,Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh etc etc)

Is it disrespectful to Jewish religious people who have gone before them and the Jewish religion as a whole if they don't go and live in the promised land which was offered to them by the Jewish god (YHWH,Adonai,HaShem,Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh etc etc)

Or is it simply that they want to make money in Europe?

Personally i don't care where they live but don't tout some bullshit religion.

people should drop the facade of religion and just be people again.

They are ethno-sustainable "Diversity Nazis" as authorised by Agenda 21. Jews just gone a bit "Chicken Licken". Nothing to see here, move along Moshe.

@human spirit

Well, they're also an ethnicity, and they, like anybody else, should be free to live anywhere they want.

Karlin-Stolin (Hasidic dynasty) Jewish folks like the rabbi in the story, don't proselytise.

In fact, the whole idea of conversion to Judaism is unwelcome among these.

Wise Haven wrote:
What's a "diversity Nazi?"

WTF is ethno-sustainable?

What's "chicken licken" about fearing a pogrom at the hands of armed violent self-proclaiming jew-haters?

If somebody was running around Italy saying "kill the Brits" then I'd be fucking terrified too.

I'm certain there was a huge side order of sarcasm with WH's main dish of heavy sarcasm there.

Troubled times indeed.
Didn't we discuss/predict a period of the right rising to power in Europe?
The signs have been there and the flames have been fanned for a while tbf.

feather wrote:
Well then I guess this talk of Agenda 21 must have been tongue in cheek, too.

I mean when I hear it being mentioned I get flashbacks of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and I smell John Birch Society (who have sponsored or co-sponsored lectures on the dangers of Agenda 21 all over the US and beyond).

It's code for "Evil Socialist-Marxist Plot" and all kinds of McCarthy. By wingnuts and *ahem* "libertarians" (of the Koch variety).

mikey mikey wrote:
It was satire aimed at the BBC's article trying to tone down the "Nazi" label, because they were effectively EU sponspored agitators. In other words the BBC desperately trying to spin the situation and make them a little less "Nasty-Nazi" and a bit more "Nice-Nazi" because everybody now knows they were EU/US funded/organised agit-prop. (I thought it was you posted the original BBC re-spin article MIkey)
Twas all meant to be tongue in cheek/satire at the hypocrisys we are seeing.

BTW - Chicken Licken is a childrens story tale about an ickle chick who was hit on the head by a falling acorn. He then proceeded to run around talling all his farmyard buddies "The Sky is Falling" - Which alludes to Rabbi Moshe doing the same running around saying "The Nazi's are coming"

Wise Haven wrote:
I must be losing my sense of humour.

Apologies WH

Wise Haven wrote:
But the Nazis ARE coming. For them. "Death to Moscovites and Jews" they were chanting, IIRC.

And let's face it, Eastern Europe killed a LOT of them only a couple of generations ago.

mikey mikey wrote:
Maybe it is my satire/comedy failure Mikey. I'm still only on 1.1 of my Bob Monkhouse Masters of Comedy course....as promised to OIOi.

Actually we don't know that the nazis in Ukraine are EU or US sponsored.
In fact, they could be something that both the Russians and the EU and/or US are simply capitalizing on.

After all, the BNP and EDL are quite a natural emergence over here and supposedly in opposition to the EU and the nazis in the Ukraine are leaning towards the Russians not the EU.

Pro Russia? Not these Nazis
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)
nor these
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector

Though they ain't pro EU either.

I remember reading about a big Nazi gathering; golden dawn, BNP,etc recently.

www.channel4.com/news/svoboda-ministers-...government-far-right

www.vice.com/en_uk/read/rome-hosted-a-eu...t-party-this-weekend

Here it is. Related or coincidence?

So looking at the Nazis....

“Right Sector.” includes
“Svoboda” Party,
“Patriots of Ukraine,”
“Ukrainian National Assembly,”
“Trizub.”

As far as I can tell the ideology that they share:

anti-immigrant,
anti-Jewish,
virulently anti-Russian

pro- “pure” Ukrainian nation

andyh wrote: I think there is some confusion about who the anti-Russian elements are, politically. Some say the nationalist "rebels" are a right wing Neo-Nazis. Others, the EU/US want to label them as a freedom loving democratic peoples uprising. There doesn't seem to be any real clarity.

The EDL has a deep, deep history. In it's early days it was a US, Neo-Con sponsored anti-Islamist - non-racist protest/lobby group. It underwent a radical change after its original leader was ousted in a cou d'etat and saw the rise of it's new leader, Robinson. In its earlier incarnation its membership were very anti-BNP and any association with BNP was rigorously rooted out.
After the coup - its position changed radically and the BNP became the ones who considered EDL a pariah organisation and tried, unsuccessfully, to keep its distance.
EDL was co-opted and used as a pawn to discredit the anti-EU lobby .....and ultimately collapsed as was planned once it was no longer a useful tool of....whoever?
There is a lot more to the EDL story - and it is fair to say they were nothing more than a tool, and Robinson was a placeman controlled by puppet masters with an agenda of....
I watched the shenanigans for a long time. And MSM exploited them mercilessly - as was intended.
Smoke and Mirrors at work.